Michigan Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic - 2021 Presented by Redbud Roots

Larry LaBond

I can get you taken care of. Please message me what kind of discs you are interested in? You have won $53 worth of stuff.

Pat Burke

Maybe payouts at the course we played would have worked a little better something to think about next year. Also would not not mind hearing why I played in a 5 some today at an A-Tier event with 72 pros? You can pm me details

Brandon oleskie

I would be interested in hearing as well. As many other players are curious as well.

Larry LaBond

I was able to get money transferred and everyone I have a PayPal address for has been paid. There are a couple of people I am trying to get addresses for. So, if you have not been paid as of now, please message me!!

Larry LaBond

As I explained in another post. I was asked by Dave to be moved up to make a 5 some on the lead card. As it was the year he was being inducted into the HoF I decided to allow it. Any other year, I would not have done it. I didn't think it was going to upset as many pros as it apparently did ... more

As I explained in another post. I was asked by Dave to be moved up to make a 5 some on the lead card. As it was the year he was being inducted into the HoF I decided to allow it. Any other year, I would not have done it. I didn't think it was going to upset as many pros as it apparently did or as much. As a pro, I've played in fivesomes, I've played in small groups behind big groups. I've had to wait on every hole. I've dealt with it. If I were playing in this situation I may have disagreed with the decision as well. I would have sucked it up and moved on. I might even ask the TD about it, but the way some have acted towards me has been unreal. I'm sorry that this has outraged so many. I tried to do something nice for this year's HoF inductee and thought that everyone might understand, but obviously I was wrong. I won't do it again! Is there anymore we need to hear on this?

Drew "Orange Andy" Herron

Larry, because you allowed something not even permitted by the PDGA (no super groups for video except for first round with prior approval of the PDGA tour manager) when two of our cardmates didn't show we couldn't split into two 5 somes, and instead had two 3somes behind the slow 5some wit ... more

Larry, because you allowed something not even permitted by the PDGA (no super groups for video except for first round with prior approval of the PDGA tour manager) when two of our cardmates didn't show we couldn't split into two 5 somes, and instead had two 3somes behind the slow 5some with video coverage. 25+ minutes every hole. Every. Hole. If you're not going to follow the rules, don't tell me to suck it up.

Larry LaBond

Drew I have acknowledge I made a mistake. It was not done for video purposes. If Dave didn't ask, it wouldn't have happened. I made a bad decision. You run stuff. You ever make a decision people disagree with? 25minutes on every hole is 7.5 hours. Your round was 7.5 hours? I'l ... more

Drew I have acknowledge I made a mistake. It was not done for video purposes. If Dave didn't ask, it wouldn't have happened. I made a bad decision. You run stuff. You ever make a decision people disagree with? 25minutes on every hole is 7.5 hours. Your round was 7.5 hours? I'll fully admit I made a wrong choice but I still this fivesome issue IS being made to be a bigger issue then it should be. I've apologized. Said I won't do it again. Now you're telling me that there would have been 2 fivesomes because of no shows instead of the 1 I allowed.

Drew "Orange Andy" Herron

2 5 somes would have flowed better than two 3s behind it, and another in the middle of the field. Perhaps not 25 minutes, its hard to keep track when you're just standing there boiling in the heat. I think the primary problem with your apologies is that they seemed to be qualified with reasons ... more

2 5 somes would have flowed better than two 3s behind it, and another in the middle of the field. Perhaps not 25 minutes, its hard to keep track when you're just standing there boiling in the heat. I think the primary problem with your apologies is that they seemed to be qualified with reasons why people should take on the burden of that apology. Don't tell me a story about how you sucked it up, make a formal apology, reconigize the specifics of the problems, what you'll do to address them going forward, and follow that up with actual action. I can't speak to what others have said in terms of calling names or insulting you, but I haven't done those.

Larry LaBond

Drew, I've been asked to explain my decision. I've tried to do that to the best of my ability and all people are doing is twisting it around. I've played pro for a long time and have even been on the lead card at worlds. As a player, I would have more or less rolled with the decisi ... more

Drew, I've been asked to explain my decision. I've tried to do that to the best of my ability and all people are doing is twisting it around. I've played pro for a long time and have even been on the lead card at worlds. As a player, I would have more or less rolled with the decision. Like I said before, as a player, I may have also disagreed with the decision, but I wouldn't have let it work me up as much as others have (sucked it up). I thought others would want to help celebrate Dave and roll with the decision to help honor him. Afterall, it is the HoF tournament. That was what I was thinking about when I made the decision. I am not telling you or anyone else to suck it up. I am totally surprised by the reaction of so many people. I've apologized for it multiple times and tried to explain this. I've put 3 somes in the middle of the field before to help flow with the overall course. If all 3 somes are all at the bottom, then the bottom moves quicker while the flow in the middle is slow and a 3 some there can help things move a little quicker. While I acknowledge my decision was a mistake, I do feel that the outrage for it is way overboard and the things directed at me have been extremely disappointing from a disc golf community I have loved. People piling on. Not sure what I need to say more than what I have said. I've said it won't happen again. I highly doubt that another HoF member will be in 5th place open heading into the last round on the night of their induction ceremony and ask me to be part of the lead card. If that somehow happens again I will tell them NO.

Jay B

It kinda seems like the only thing you’re sorry about is that people are pissed, like you’re sorry they couldn’t handle it or something, not so much sorry for your poor decision making that didn’t include much consideration for those that it would affect...ie you made the dec ... more

It kinda seems like the only thing you’re sorry about is that people are pissed, like you’re sorry they couldn’t handle it or something, not so much sorry for your poor decision making that didn’t include much consideration for those that it would affect...ie you made the decision for your own reasons and now your only care is to downplay the results in an attempt to minimize the backlash....like the saying goes, you’re not really sorry you’re only sorry you got caught is the way it’s coming out

Scuba Steve

So much drama.

Larry LaBond

Please message me and I can get you taken care of. You won $26 worth of stuff. So, give me an idea of what you would like to get.

Larry LaBond

Good job Sam!

Larry LaBond

Will do

Larry LaBond

Got you!

Larry LaBond

Coming soon!

Larry LaBond

Will be sent shortly. Great job!

Rusty Gorter

OK

Rusty Gorter

OK

Josh Taylor

Also, reminder, Luke Taylor #102119 is not accepting cash. Thank You!

Larry LaBond

We had a special request from this year's HoF inductee to be allowed into the lead card. Any other year, we would not grant it, but it is his HoF induction year. So, we did. Sorry you have such a problem with it.

Pat Burke

Lame

William Freed

My issue with it is that you randomly selected my group on hole 7 to be a threesome, thus guaranteeing that we would be waiting 10-30 mins on every teepad.... never in my life heard of someone getting to ask to be on lead card when they didn’t deserve to be. That’s not really a very cool reason to sit and wait on every tee third round of an A tier when you’re well in the cash line....

Michael McGinnis

"Sorry YOU have such a problem with it" He wasnt the only one Larry. There were many

Brandon oleskie

So what you’re saying is special requests are OK!?

Larry LaBond

I apologize for it. I was trying to do something nice for the person that was being honored this weekend and what this event is about. I understand that there are a lot of people disagree with my decision, but can we get real here? So, far I have had complaints here, to the PDGA, and on facebook. ... more

I apologize for it. I was trying to do something nice for the person that was being honored this weekend and what this event is about. I understand that there are a lot of people disagree with my decision, but can we get real here? So, far I have had complaints here, to the PDGA, and on facebook. I have been called names and insulted many times over this. Again, you may disagree, but this is being blown WAY out of proportion! I've considered some of the people saying this stuff my friends. So, your group moved a little slower, does that excuse all these "professionals" publicly bashing me over it? Calling me names? I mean really, my family has got to read some of this stuff! Now I had answer my wife's question of why do you work so hard for people that talk about you like this? LAME!

Brandon oleskie

It’s not about being nice.it’s not a friendly backyard tournament it’s an A-Tier!! If you’re consistent there’s no room for errors this weekend wasn’t consistent to any PDGA standards I’ve been To.

Brandon oleskie

If you think I’m letting this go!! I shouldn’t have to feel the way I did being harassed for two holes by a drunk TD.

Larry LaBond

Brandon, I also greatly apologize for his behavior and there is no excuse for that and there have been some conversations with him about what happened. Beyond apologizing, what more do you want? The event is over. We had a few issues and will do my and our best to make sure they don't happen ... more

Brandon, I also greatly apologize for his behavior and there is no excuse for that and there have been some conversations with him about what happened. Beyond apologizing, what more do you want? The event is over. We had a few issues and will do my and our best to make sure they don't happen again. I've been insulted over this. I've been called names. My family has witnessed some of this. What is the proper punishment for allowing a fivesome? Do you need to punch me?

Jim Stack

Wow it's crazy to think anyone would think this is ok !!

Brandon oleskie

Larry if a player was drunk in a Pdga he would be DQ and maybe suspended correct?? I’m very shocked to see a TD asking a player if he needs to punch him??

Brandon oleskie

I was shocked to see him on the final day at the course to be honest. The five some has nothing to do with me that’s another situation

Larry LaBond

Brandon, by no means was it okay. We were running 6 different courses this weekend. A difficult undertaking and we were stretched thin Lot's of potential for things to go wrong. You are 100% correct. His behavior was a problem and we won't have this issue again with him. I asked abou ... more

Brandon, by no means was it okay. We were running 6 different courses this weekend. A difficult undertaking and we were stretched thin Lot's of potential for things to go wrong. You are 100% correct. His behavior was a problem and we won't have this issue again with him. I asked about punching me because apologies haven't been enough. At the point where my family is reading some of the things being said, I'm growing frustrated. I'm also kinda hurt that people I considered friends are acting like they are towards me. I'm not dismissing the complaints and I will do my best to learn from this and do better. That is all I can do. You're telling me you're not going to let it go. So, what is it you want me to do?

Scuba Steve

Jesus. Glad the top pros were able to overcome the hardships of seeing a drunk person and put together some fire rounds. Looks like some need to work on their mental game. Especially if its still spewing days later

Jeff Kuehle

I just saw the tee times! I noticed we are a threesome amongst 4-somes on hole 7. also hole 13. Is that intentional?

Rusty Gorter

Yes, intentional, butnot against you or anyone in your group. Random hole selection for the 3-some. Special request from a certain HoF 2021 Inductee to have a 5-some on lead card ;)

Steele Boonstra

Are spectators allowed? My parents are in town and were wondering

Jeff Kuehle

Ok, usually we put the threesomes at the end to help the 4some cards flow better, and we are the only threesome near the cash line and will probably be waiting at every hole. Thanks for the clarification.

Rusty Gorter

Yes, spectators are allowed