20th Annual Fall Colors presented by Dynamic Discs
PDGA A-tier · Sat-Sun, Nov 4-5, 2017Nov 2017 · Williamsburg, VA
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Due to this year being an A tier event which are typically not geared toward casual players (current ...
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Due to this year being an A tier event which are typically not geared toward casual players (current PDGA status is required), in addition to the logistics limitations in having room for divisions, we had to make the choice to cut it. This is common with similar events.
Jeremy Z
Aug 3, 2017
Have you seen the ratings in intermediate? Those players you want to exclude are just playing up
As they always do - its a big picture kind of thing really. A majority would rather have a large di ...
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As they always do - its a big picture kind of thing really. A majority would rather have a large division with good competition and huge payouts that many smaller divisions with smaller prizes when it comes to A tiers (which are primarily pro level events)
Jeremy Z
Aug 3, 2017
600 rated players playing with 920 rated players is a HUGE problem
Again, an A tier event is designed to cater to experienced players. We will not tell the 600 rated ...
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Again, an A tier event is designed to cater to experienced players. We will not tell the 600 rated players that they cannot play, but the fact of the matter is that they should participate in C or maybe even B tier events until they are ready to compete on an A tier level. Its similar to someone going from learning on the bunny hill directly to the Olympic skiing championships, except instead of telling them no outright we will try to accommodate them.
Stuart Krall
Aug 3, 2017
My, my are we worried that the 920 players will be too slow or what? Encouraging anyone to play rega ...
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My, my are we worried that the 920 players will be too slow or what? Encouraging anyone to play regardless of skill level or tournament rating should be the goal of the PDGA. Having done this for many years I can assure anyone that ratings may not predict how one plays a particular course. As one of the creators of disc golf as we know stated at several Am Worlds I attended whom ever has the most fun wins! Sometimes just getting to be in a "Big Time " tournament is all the fun you need to get you to practice more often and lower your scores and raise your rating.
Michael Bonday
Aug 3, 2017
Tommy is absolutely right. And nobody does more work to accomodate that level of player than Tommy. ...
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Tommy is absolutely right. And nobody does more work to accomodate that level of player than Tommy. If it were up to me (and don't take this the qwrong way) there would be NO rec division in any PDGA event. By definition a recreational player is just that , and not in it to compete. Although, I think rec events would be a fun thing
Stuart Krall
Aug 3, 2017
Gosh, being a rec player and a former World Champion I might take offense Mr. Bonday. You quickly judge without all the information.
Michael Bonday
Aug 3, 2017
like I said , don't take it the wrong way. Its my opinion, I have spent years of my life building co ...
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like I said , don't take it the wrong way. Its my opinion, I have spent years of my life building courses for players of all levels, mostly thinking about rec players. I said the term recreational itself is explicit in that it is non-competitive. You have no idea what information I have
Michael Bonday
Aug 3, 2017
Stuart , I am not trying to offend anyone. Tommy does a lot of work. And directs events throughout t ...
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Stuart , I am not trying to offend anyone. Tommy does a lot of work. And directs events throughout the year catering to ams and recs. His point is concessions need to be made if we are have everyone participate in a single event. My opinion is just that. I promise you I have done PLENTY of work on the behalf of rec players
I think in the future putting which divisions you are going to have when you originally list the tou ...
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I think in the future putting which divisions you are going to have when you originally list the tournament would help. This tournament had rec division when it was posted months ago then they changed it. I know for me I planned my time off from work to travel down to participate in the spring. I was excited about the event. If someone is in the 900s they could also play up and play advanced if they want tougher competition.
Jeremy Z
Aug 4, 2017
It's ridiculous that it was posted to include red and they changed their mind. All you've done by excluding rec is ruined int
Stuart Krall
Aug 4, 2017
HMMMMM, I think questioning what the TD is doing is foolish. Tommy was gracious enough to respond to ...
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HMMMMM, I think questioning what the TD is doing is foolish. Tommy was gracious enough to respond to a question regarding groups, divisions etc. I was simply musing on the need to seemingly attack people that competetively play as recreational golfers in tournaments being somhow less worthy. I am not offended by demeaning opinions of my choice to play Rec when possible. As I have had circumstances that have deteriorated my skill level I still wish to play and compete with people of similar skills. I hope everyone can respect this! I am sure Michael provides a healthy in put to the Disc Golf World ( you passion for the game is evident in your posts!) Tommy, what can we say? He and his wife have and continue to go beyond any accolades we can currently bestow.
Stuart Krall
Aug 4, 2017
Oh, Adam; it an unfortunate circumstance that can occur when organizing a major undertaking. I was r ...
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Oh, Adam; it an unfortunate circumstance that can occur when organizing a major undertaking. I was really hoping for REC. Logistically this was not possible. There are several of us in intermediate far below 900 in ratings. Please join us in th fun. John Roy, Tommy Douglas and ALL the Colonial Disc Golf Club consistently provide some of the best tournaments on the East coast every year
I would love to be able to include every division that I can get people to play, but sometimes conce ...
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I would love to be able to include every division that I can get people to play, but sometimes concessions have to be made to accommodate the target audience and the majority consensus. I actually fought for better format options for amateur divisions at the planning meeting for this event - But an event of this level is planned by a group of people, and the group made completely valid arguments for the choice of formats and divisions to produce the best possible quality event for the whole.
Michael Bonday
Aug 7, 2017
I don't want to exclude anyone. I was just expressing my opinon. But sometimes the circumstances req ...
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I don't want to exclude anyone. I was just expressing my opinon. But sometimes the circumstances requires concessions. Tommy works all year on running events and and I pretty much stick to the courses. The A tier will be a learning curve for us all. All I can say is we are always trying to improve and we hate disappointing.