Ironwood Open + WGE

Also, a provisional doesnt change what he was hoping to avoid, standing in the crap. He would have ... show more ›

Also, a provisional doesnt change what he was hoping to avoid, standing in the crap. He would have thrown both so he is in the mud either way. Im surprised no one else in the group knew that rule. I was in rec and i used casual relief. That isnt some obscure rule or something

Right, but I was the only person on my side of the argument, and he pulled out the rulebook, read me ... show more ›

Right, but I was the only person on my side of the argument, and he pulled out the rulebook, read me the rules, and I showed him the part of the rule that I had mentioned in my original post. However, everyone else said "I don't know man" even after I read the rule.

It sucks when playing with people who either don't play by the rules or don't know what they are. In ... show more ›

It sucks when playing with people who either don't play by the rules or don't know what they are. In that situation I would have taken the casual, putted, then putt my foot in the water, putted and marked it provisional.

The rule reads,\"A player may obtain relief only from the following obstacles that are on or behind ... show more ›

The rule reads,"A player may obtain relief only from the following obstacles that are on or behind the lie: casual water... or any item or area specifically designated by the Director before the round." When I originally read that statement, I assumed that the water had to be defined as casual water by the TD before the round and this was the opinion of a couple of other officials that I asked as well. However, as I reread the rules, I see that casual water is in the definitions and is described as, "A body of water which is not out-of-bounds, and which has not been declared by the Director to not be casual water." So yes, you should have been able to take casual relief. I think the moral of the story is to always carry a rulebook and to understand where to find the answers.