As far as #11 goes, the hole idea was fun, but the potential for conflict with runners is just too high to justify putting the pin placement there. #12 was a fun hole (especially since the hyzer route has a left to right down slope making for a risky big skip even on a nice shot) that is exactly the type of elevation that needs to come into play (not just the up and down off of the tee).
As far as #11 goes, the hole idea was fun, but the potential for conflict with runners is just too high to justify putting the pin placement there. #12 was a fun hole (especially since the hyzer route has a left to right down slope making for a risky big skip even on a nice shot) that is exactly the type of elevation that needs to come into play (not just the up and down off of the tee).