Whistlers Doubles Presented by Innova Discs Official Players Guide
Welcome: Hi everyone! It’s Whistler’s Dubs week and we could not be more excited to get to spend a few days at our favorite place in the world. I want to first thank you all for signing up for this event, the players truly make it as special as it is. Secondly, I want to give a big thank you to our tee sign sponsors, CTP sponsors and to John Bellman for stepping up this year with an event donation and a $500 CTP prize.
WE KNOW THIS IS A LONG EMAIL BUT PLEASE READ IT FULLY. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL PLAYERS TO KNOW.
Format: As you know, this event is three rounds of 27 holes and will test every skill you have on the disc golf course.
-Friday: All players will play 27 holes of Best Shot
-Saturday: All NON-MPO/MP40 Divisions will play Alternate Shot for holes 1-9, Best Shot for holes 10-18 and Worst Shot for holes 19-27. Formats explained below. All MPO and MP40 teams play 27 holes of worst shot. The format for each hole is listed on tee signs.
-Sunday: All players will play 27 holes of Best Shot
-Best Shot: Both team members tee off, you pick the best shot and both team members play from there. There are no splitting lies, you must decide on a lie as a team to play from. Once one member of that team holes out, the hole is over.
-Alternate Shot: On hole one, teams must decide who will tee off first. Each team plays one disc out per hole. Player one tees off, wherever it goes, player two throws from there. If player two fails to make it in the basket, player one then plays from wherever the shot ended up. Once a player makes the putt, the hole is over. At no time in this format do both players throw from a lie. Player one will tee off on holes one, three, five, seven and nine. Player two will tee off on holes two, four, six and eight.
Note: Because we have so many CTP’s out. The player on each team who is not the one teeing off for the alternate shot hole is allowed to throw a “just for fun” throw to try to win the CTP. That player must declare the throw will not to be used for play and is just to try to win the CTP prize before they throw. That throw is immediately picked up when the team plays the hole, if that throw comes to rest closer to the pin than the current CTP marker, put your name on it and mark the lie before picking up that disc.
-Worst Shot: Both team members tee off, the team you are playing with then gets to decide which shot is hardest lie and you must play from there. DO NOT BE NICE TO THE TEAM YOU ARE PLAYING WITH! Make them take the harder lie. It is worst shot for the entire hole, not just the drive. Once one team member makes a putt, the hole is over. No need for both members to make the putt. For CTP’s during this format, you do not have to play from the lie to win a CTP. If player one on your team parks the hole close enough to win a CTP, but then player two hits the first tree, you will have to play from player two’s lie, but player one’s shot can still count for CTP prizes.
Schedule: All starting times and hole assignments are posted on the PDGA event page at
https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/89398
Round 1 hole assignments are now up. There is no perfect world to keep everyone playing with only their division, but we did the best we could.
Hole assignments are subject to change if we have teams drop out. If we move your hole assignment due to a drop out, I will send you an email personally to update you.
Hole assignments for round 2 and 3 will be posted on the PDGA event page as quickly as I can get them done after the evening round each day. Rounds can take a while so please expect them to be posted around 8:00pm each evening. All rounds are SHOTGUN start, so please make sure you are at your hole on time. If you somehow get to a hole and the other team does not show up, you must join the group in front or behind you. Do not make a group of more than three teams. If a team is late, they will be assessed par plus four shots until they show up. At that point, if you need to break back off into the original groups please do so. Just please don’t miss your tee times and if you know your team is not coming back for a round, give us as much notice as possible so we can rearrange things as a tournament staff.
-Thursday:
6:30-8:00pm- Check in and Players Pack Pick up at the new pavilion in the disc golf parking lot.
-Friday:
7:30am-8:10am AM Flight Late Check in. If you check in Friday morning, you will get your players pack AFTER your round.
8:30am- AM Flight Shotgun Start Round 1
11:30am-1:00pm- PRO Flight Late Check In
1:30pm- PRO Flight Shotgun Start Round 1
1:30-3:00pm- AM Player Pack Collection (If you didn’t get it Thursday Night)
-Saturday:
8:00am- PRO Flight Shotgun Start Round 2
1:30pm- AM Flight Shotgun Start Round 2
-Sunday:
8:30am- AM Flight Shotgun Start Round 3
1:30pm- PRO Flight Shotgun Start Round 3
2:00pm- AM Awards and CTP Prize Pickup
6:30pm or ASAP- PRO Awards, Pro’s please pick your CTP prizes up before your
final round.
Players Packs: All AM players will receive a Whistlers Dubs Custom Hat, Fully sublimated Whisters Dubs Custom Jersey, Two Innova Discs, a Silipint Cup and a 19.2 oz Special Edition Whistlers Dubs IPA Beer from Backside Brewing. AM players, you should have selected a shirt size at sign-ups. You will get that size and then Saturday if you know you need a different size you can come find me and see if we have others available to trade them out (shirts must be unworn to switch them out). Our first responsibility is to get everyone the size they put down, you will not be allowed to switch your shirt size out during check in. If your partner signed you up and put the wrong size down.. I’m sorry.
Pros will also get the Silipint Cup and 19.2 oz Special Edition Whistlers Dubs IPA from Backside Brewing.
We will have a small amount of leftover Jerseys and Hats after AM players get their player packs. Those will be for sale for $25 each cash or paypal only on Sunday at hole 1.
Scoring: We will use PDGA live scoring for this event. All teams are required to do this. If you really don’t have access to a phone, we will have paper backup cards but don’t be that person! Just do live scoring, if you’ve ever run an event, live scoring saves us HOURS of time at the end of each evening.
Scoring Instructions:
1. Have one player from each team go to
www.pdga.com/score
2. Type in the access code: DUBS25
3. Type in your name or PDGA number
4. The website should have all the players names already loaded up, if it doesn’t, have that person search and add names by PDGA number or Last Name.
5. Hit keep score Round 1 (or 2 or 3)
6. Click begin play
7. Keep score
8. At the end of the round, make sure all cards match and all players need to check and verify their scores. Once scores are submitted, they are official, and any errors will result in a two-stroke penalty per PDGA rules.
9. Finalize and submit the scorecard. If you do this correctly you don’t need to turn anything into tournament staff. Please do not forget this step.
10. These steps can also be done using the PDGA Live App. If you have not already downloaded this app, it really does make life easier for tournament days.
This works the same as singles events for PDGA. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO LIVE SCORING. It will make our organization and turnaround time minutes instead of hours. There is now WIFI in both campgrounds at the park, if you have bad cell service at Whistlers, please start that scorecard in a campground area, once it is loaded and started, you don’t need service to do the scoring. You only need cell service/WIFI to start and finalize your scorecard.
CTP Prizes: We currently have 22 holes in rounds 1 and 2 that will have CTP prizes on them. It is possible that we end up adding more prizes, but likely we will just make the prize packs bigger if more CTP donations come in. There are certain CTP packages I don’t have in my possession yet, if they have committed to a prize and it doesn’t show up, we will do our best to replace it, but if not, I will simply cross it off on the tee sign with a sharpie. The flags/CTP markers will stay out for the first two days.
There will be no CTP’s in round 3 as all players end at different times and we want to make sure you go home with your prize without having to wait around until the final PRO groups finish on Sunday. All CTP packages this year have a minimum value of $50, but most if not all will exceed that by quite a bit. If you win a CTP prize, you can pick it up at tournament central Sunday at the times listed above.
We are not shipping prizes; you must pick it up Sunday if you win one. We will put a list out before rounds begin Sunday with who the winner is for each hole. During round 2, on the alternate shot holes your team only gets one person to tee off.
-Hole 7: This is a $500 cash CTP, for this hole specifically you need to fully fill out the CTP marker sheet if you are the closest to the pin and get to move the flag. This will include your name, team name, what disc you used, the distance you are from the pole and someone from the team you are playing against needs to write their name as a witness that you measured the shot.
YOU MUST MEASURE THE DISTANCE THAT THE FRONT OF YOUR DISC IS AWAY FROM THE BASE OF THE POLE FOR THIS CTP. THERE WILL BE A TAPE MEASURE PROVIDED. If any step is missed in recording your CTP on this hole, your entry will be voided, and the next best shot will be awarded the prize. NO EXCEPTIONS. FILL IT OUT CORRECTLY. If somehow multiple people ace the hole and tie for the CTP the prize will be split between the two.
You can find a full list of CTP Prizes on the Event Facebook Page. Each tee sign will have the prize listed on it as well.
Parking: Parking will be something the parks department is picky about. You are not allowed to park on any grass at Whistlers Bend. If the top parking lot is full, your second option is down by hole 25/26 in the provided parking spaces. We do not have the group campsites reserved. DO NOT PARK IN THAT AREA, other people have paid to reserve the group campsites, they are not tournament players. Because this is a shotgun start event, parking in other provided areas closer to your starting hole such as by the boat ramp is a great idea. If you are starting on anything close to 13-16 you may park on the gravel but PLEASE do not park where a backhand drive can hit your car on 15. I will put no parking signs up and hope they don’t get moved or ignored. Anyone starting on 5-9 please park at the boat ramp if you can.
We tried to get parking suggestions from Douglas County Parks for events of this size but didn’t get anywhere useful in our conversations. It is possible we get overflow parking on the side of 27’s fairway but that is unconfirmed at this point. If you are camping, please just leave your car in your campsite, if you are not camping, but have friends that are maybe try to squeeze your car into their site during your rounds without blocking the driving paths for cars/RV’s.
Camping: Please be respectful of all Douglas County and Whistlers Bend Park rules. Respect the fact that there are non-disc golfers also camping at the park and you need to observe quiet hour rules the best you can. Please keep the campground in the same or better shape as when you arrive so we have the ability to keep running events of this size at Whistlers Bend. Also, please make sure all your extra vehicle fees are paid and be nice to the camp hosts out there. They are awesome people who are totally on our side for running events like this.
If you did not book the campsite for Sunday night, you will need to check out of the site before your rounds on Sunday. There could be people who have reserved those sites after you for the next evening, tournament staff have nothing to do with camping reservations, but we expect all players to follow the rules and guidelines set by the parks department. If the camp hosts come to us and let us know you have been an issue and have been breaking Douglas County Camping rules/regulations, we reserve the right to remove your team from the event. Please, have fun but be respectful of other people who are camping around you.
Player Courtesy: This is now a PDGA test tier event. We expect players to behave and keep the tournament experience of others in mind. If you get to the point where your behavior (alcohol influenced or not) is impacting other players or park user’s ability to enjoy their weekend, we as tournament staff reserve the right to remove your team from the event. This can be during tournament play or non-tournament play such as camping quiet times. Please do not put us in that situation. Have fun, enjoy yourselves but keep the attitudes and behavior positive. There are no open flames at Whistlers outside of designated fire pits. Two summers ago we almost lost the whole park due to a fire caused by a drone racing event at the park. Please follow all local and state laws when it comes to your behavior in the park. Players are allowed to have alcohol during rounds for this event, but please keep the playing experience of others in mind.
Special Ace Pot: The Nunez Ranch is putting a $250 ace bounty on two holes this year. Hole 23 and Hole 25. Any aces on those holes will get the bonus ace bounty. If there is more than one on either hole, the $250 will be split. Thanks Enrique and Karleen Nunez!
Hole Rules: All hole rules will be on the tee signs and in the PDGA live scoring page. It’s pretty simple at Whistlers but here are the basics.
Hole rules always in effect at Whistlers:
-On/Over any road you don’t have to cross is OB
-On any paved road or parking lot is OB
-In the river is OB
-Over any painted or flagged line is OB (except hole 20 which will play as hazard)
SPECIAL HOLE RULES
-Holes 5, 7 and 13 have drop zones painted. Any drive that goes OB on those holes plays from the drop zone. Any shots after the drive play standard OB. If you throw your drive over the cliff on 5 or 7, please wait until after the round to go get it. Do not try to climb down the hill.
-Hole 14 will have an OB line painted near the edge of the cliff also but there is no drop zone, this hole is standard OB rules. Again, please do not try to climb down that cliff to get your disc.
-There are two mando’s on the course, holes 1 and 25, please read the tee signs and live scoring for the details.
-One new note is hole 20. There will be a painted line at the edge of the trees and then circling around behind the basket into 27’s fairway. Over this line either left or long will play as HAZARD. This means if your team must play from there, you take a one throw penalty and play it where it lies. The line will follow the trees early in the hole and then cut into the woods, at no point will it be inside circle 1. The parks department cut the limbs up way too high on the trees where any shot that came in early left still had a putt. This hazard area is our way of making sure good shots get rewarded on that hole and bad shots do not.
TEE PADS: We will be playing the BRAND NEW tee on hole 25 all weekend. Just walk down the road instead of taking the trail to the normal tee and you’ll see it. It is only 15 feet or so from the road.
ROUND 1- MPO and MP40 will play the top tee pad on hole 15. All other divisions play the normal tee pad. Rounds 2-3 everyone plays the normal tee pad.
Payouts: All pro payouts will be sent via Paypal the week after the event concludes. The AM side of the event is players pack/ trophies only. If you need the payout sent to a different Paypal than what you signed up with, please let me know. If we don’t have two Paypal addresses for a team, we will send it all to one player and they will be responsible to get it to their teammate.
Dropouts: Following our refund policy, no refunds will be given at this point unless there is a waitlist team to fill that spot. In that case teams get $100 of their entry back. Basically, don’t drop out!
If a team has a player drop out during the event, you will be allowed to fill the spot with another player as long as they are eligible for that division. It cannot be someone already playing on a different team. For best shot rounds, teams can play with only one player, but that player only gets one shot, it is NOT Cali rules. It is simply singles. A team WILL NOT be allowed to play the round 2 worst/alternate/best shot round (or all worst for MPO/MP40) without both teammates there. It will be a DNF and the team is removed from the competition.
Water: We will have water jugs on the course and do our best to keep them full, but please plan on bringing your own water. The extended forecast shows pretty mild temperatures for the weekend, which is good for playing, not as great for floating the river. There is also a water fountain attached to the bathrooms on hole 18 assuming it is working. Water jugs will be filled every 2:00-2:30 hours throughout the day by VOLUNTEERS, so please be nice to them. Water jugs will be on holes 11 and 15. People have enjoyed wandering off with our water jugs (Stealing them) in the past from the park so if you see any non-disc golfers near them, please say something nicely to them. There is also a new water spicket next to the new bathroom between 11-20’s tees.
WIFI: Both the upper and lower campgrounds now have WIFI which is Whistlers Bend Guest. The password is dcparks2023. Remember, if you have poor cell service please use this to start and finalize your card! Once you start it, you don’t need service again until you are finalizing it.
Trophies will be handed out directly following your rounds on Sunday.
Weather: Well, because we live in Oregon it looks like Mother Nature might have some rain in the forecast this weekend. Please come prepared. Friday and Saturday look like off and on showers and fingers crossed that Sunday warms up a bit and is the summer day we are all hoping for. Bring those waterproof shoes, umbrellas and plenty of towels just in case. We also know that camping in the rain is not as enjoyable but most of us are from the Pacific Northwest, we can handle this! If for some reason we have lightning that comes with the rain, we will follow PDGA guidelines for delays. If you ever hear two blasts of an air horn that means we are suspending play due to lightning. The forecast does not show any electricity right now but you never know in the summer when systems like this come in.
Vending: Anthony H. will be on site all weekend with the full Innova Tour set-up vending discs! Bring some extra money with you to look through all his goodies. This is the same set up that travels to all the DGPT events across the country.
Again, thank you for signing up for this tournament and let’s have some fun this weekend!
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out!
Scott Withers & WBDS Team