Frank Welsh  › 2010 DISCRAFT Ace Race   September 13, 2010 at 12:50am

John, I threw that disc around a bit at Raintree earlier today and I'm enjoying the 177 it reminds me alot of my old first run xl. with a little anny and some height(about 12 to 15 ft) it makes a good 250-300 ft disc with a gentle s.