Union Strikes at Indy

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And full-resolution versions on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/benseese/sets/72157625194452124/
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Sorry no legitimate action shots, I was busy throwing all day. According to my score card, I was the busiest guy out there!

I was in the group that allowed the player in question to join. We had finished 10, which is the hole we started on, before he came up and joined us. For some reason there were no cards in front or be ... show more ›

I was in the group that allowed the player in question to join. We had finished 10, which is the hole we started on, before he came up and joined us. For some reason there were no cards in front or behind us for several holes. I don't understand why we had to head all the way back to 10 as a 3-some with no other groups by us, but then I'm not a TD. It's shitty to hear about the other guy getting 8 penalty strokes when the dude that joined our group got nothing. Again, I'm not a TD so it was your call, Fortch and I see you have your reasons. The player in question should have payed more attention so as to not create unnecessary burden for other players, and that is nobody's fault but his own. Maybe next tourney he'll double check before he goes bumblefucking through the course.

I don't believe the Am pool was given enough time to get out to Chuck D, though. I trucked it out to 10 (a LONG walk for someone who hasn't played the course before), and made it maybe a minute before 2-minute. The next guy came at the 2-minute, and the 3rd came after the starting horn out of breath and looking exhausted.

Regardless, I had an excellent time and I feel the tourney went pretty smooth and that 101 did a good job of running the show. Can't let one (or more) player's lack of attention to the details ruin a beautiful day of disc golf.

I saw a similar scenario at the Hambrick open back in July. The TD put all AM2s in 3-somes. Someone who was supposed to be on my card started one hole back. Since you cannot play a tournament round ... show more ›

I saw a similar scenario at the Hambrick open back in July. The TD put all AM2s in 3-somes. Someone who was supposed to be on my card started one hole back. Since you cannot play a tournament round as a twosome, we had to try to find out what to do. The TD decided to have us wait until the other group finished the previous hole and then let him join us (the correct card) with no penalty. Then he would witness me and the other player on my card play our last hole since he already would have played it at the beginning. In this case, it was probably his fault since he set everyone up in 3-somes, which leaves you susceptible to this scenario.

If everyone goes to the player's meeting and checks the board before heading out to their holes, then this kind of thing doesn't happen. I know a lot of people at tournaments are trying to get an early look at the board so they don't have to fight the crowds after the player's meeting. I'd say it's worth it to make sure you get to where you need to be.

The leaderboard can change before the player's meeting for whatever reason. Someone might have to withdraw due to illness, injury, or some other emergency (You're not going to hear from the people who say "screw this, I'm going home" so I don't think you can really prepare for it). Maybe the TD decides to run 4somes instead of 5somes. The best way to ensure you go to the correct hole is to check that thing after the player's meeting.

Would it be worth it to go to the PDGA with this scenario to get some more insight and possibly a rule clarification?

That said, if it were my group I would not allow a player to join that was not grouped with me on the leaderboard and had no name on the scorecard. The group of players should have said "no way, go f ... show more ›

That said, if it were my group I would not allow a player to join that was not grouped with me on the leaderboard and had no name on the scorecard. The group of players should have said "no way, go find your hole" but they didn't and allowed the guy to join. Not much the TD can do about it after the fact.

@ Brandon: What I meant by saying "It was my understanding that the player in question had completed all the holes, but on another card." was that he had completed all 18 holes with the same group, ... show more ›

@ Brandon:

What I meant by saying "It was my understanding that the player in question had completed all the holes, but on another card." was that he had completed all 18 holes with the same group, but on the wrong card. Sorry to hear that you're so upset and that you won't be playing any more of our events.

@Shaun: I love you too!

Also we gave the other opportunity to throw the holes he missed but I was told if a player missed a hole they got a 7. The other guy might have cashed without the 8 stroke penalty. No announcement was ... show more ›

Also we gave the other opportunity to throw the holes he missed but I was told if a player missed a hole they got a 7. The other guy might have cashed without the 8 stroke penalty. No announcement was made to note a rule change. All in all the whole thing was bs and I shan't be playing another local 101 tourney

To address Brandon's concerns: I made the decision that penalizing the player in question for playing on the wrong card would have been a bit severe. Since he did complete all holes (which is what ... show more ›

To address Brandon's concerns:

I made the decision that penalizing the player in question for playing on the wrong card would have been a bit severe. Since he did complete all holes (which is what I was told), I felt that he deserved the score he got, even though he was on the wrong card, whereas the player who showed up late did not complete all the holes, therefore he took a 4 stroke penalty on all uncompleted holes. I made sure to let the player in question know that in the future, if he were not playing on the right card, most TD's wouldn't be as lenient as me. I believe that he learned his lesson and that is the most important thing. It was my fault for not addressing the group in which the player had mistakenly joined and inquiring on the matter. It was my understanding that the player in question had completed all the holes, but on another card. Had I known that he missed a hole, I would have given him the same penalty that the other player received for incomplete holes.

To address Shawn's concerns:

I believe that the player in question has never played any 101 events and I hadn't met him until yesterday. My definition of lame shit is making dumbfounded comments on matters in which you have no frame of reference. The fact that youre suggesting that I would give anyone an advantage because they are a friend or a "local", as you put it, is offensive.

Had a good time... But here's my problem, a player shows up late for second round, misses the first hole then plays on the wrong card but "does not get any strokes because he shot such a good round" a ... show more ›

Had a good time... But here's my problem, a player shows up late for second round, misses the first hole then plays on the wrong card but "does not get any strokes because he shot such a good round" and finished third, but a guy who shows up two holes late on the right card takes sevens on them and has no chance of cashing. Where is the logic in these decisions? Please advise

Awesome courses!! I hadn't played them in since May 08. It's fun to shoot the AM1 hot round on picnic course. I wish the course was closer. Tony, I have your sidewinder. Sorry I forgot to turn i ... show more ›

Awesome courses!! I hadn't played them in since May 08. It's fun to shoot the AM1 hot round on picnic course. I wish the course was closer. Tony, I have your sidewinder. Sorry I forgot to turn it in. I'm not sure where you are from, but I play with Brad Brundage and Jeremy Gibbs once in a while; I could get it to one of them.