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wayne p  › pleasure island disc golf club   December 5, 2013 at 7:42pm

.Dave, first of all we also want an honest open conversation about the Arrowhead Park fix. It is our honest opinion that this course was a design disaster at the beginning. When CDL was" in the drivers seat", so to speak, Brant and I managed to get 17 and 18 fixed even though we could not cut any trees. Maybe you can fill me in on where the club was then because it was the RUMOR, mind you now I'm not saying it is or is not right , but you were ill about the wall in the castle being torn down and didn't want anything to do with this course. Whatever the reason, what we have now is a very big improvement over what was there in the start. This course can never be any bigger than it is so we have to work with what we have. I have already shown the club where the blank spots are, so I don't see why we don't fill those spots instead of throwing around them. Hole 11 can be a really nice hole if we just do it. I know you told me that you do not see the shot on 12 but there is a very nice hole there. However it is MY belief that what we have here is a failure to agree on some basic things about disc-golf. Boz is not by himself when he says we are playing golf, some of the other players feel this way also, maybe even you. I have never read anything ever about golf, but I have read every thing by Ed Headrick, the father of disc-golf. I tend to follow the way he feels about the way disc-golf is played and designed. I'm pretty sure that we will never agree that this is golf. That is one reason I feel that P.I.D.G.C. can do a better job. As for meeting minimum requirement, we are a 501c non-profit, and to work with the county let me assure you that we can get any policy required. While I'm here let me address a RUMOR that I heard. When Russell told the town of Kure Beach that he could not put 18 holes on that piece of ground and Spiderman was asked to do it he called and spoke to Russell himself and was told to go for it. We did not force anyone out to do the beach course. Anyone that is unaware of the parameters that we had to design under can not make an informed decision on the outcome. Now with one course under our belt we have another reason why we can do better at Arrowhead. This is not intended to piss anyone off. I know even we have had our differences but I only want to make Arrowhead all it can be. A nice 3-par beginner course. Had the P.I.D.G.C. been in control of this re-design it would be done.I even feel that if the CDL was still in charge that it would be done. However all of that is a moot point because we are not in charge and even you are not in charge anymore so it is on Boz now to fix it. We want to help, thats all. I know you want to help also, so we should all pull together to fix this course for the disc-golf community. I hope this answers your questions.(by the way was that wayneu2019s a dig or a typo?)

Big Wave Dave   December 5, 2013 at 9:35pm

Wayne, thanks for posting and keeping it somewhat professional. Your above post is riddled with misinformation. I will try to take them point by point in an effort to finally set some things straight here. While I and the entire NHDGC was bummed that the wall we spent so much time and money on was t ... more