Independence Lake County Park

Whitmore Lake, Michigan     2 courses · 42 holes     Driving directions
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Joe Gabris    November 8, 2010 at 3:24pm

I agree with Pete W.

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Peter Wyngaard    November 8, 2010 at 2:04pm

Hole 16 is one hole I wish had not been changed. The original position, a big turnover for righties, was just a great shot. Not easy by any means, but really satisfying when you pulled it off. It was also very fair for lefties, which you can't really say about the new position...

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Matt "The Spider" Swider    November 8, 2010 at 1:25pm

If you throw past the clump of trees in the center(300), and manage to make it to full pin distance(350) it's an easy 150ft lay up to the basket. If you pull it to the left in the woods at 300ft, it's still a pretty easy 3 pop-up over the bushes in front. I say that as an AM3, I cannot deude this hole without a field ace. I only average 325ft on my max drives. Even if I throw perfect placement to the dirt at the corner, there's not enough steam left on the shot to skip at the basket the extra 80 ... more

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    November 8, 2010 at 1:04pm

It is still deuceable. Especially if land past that clump of trees and it breaks left. It is a far putt, no question, but I have seen guys ace holes farther than that. This is an easy par 3 if you don't land in the woods (which I have done a few times now on the follow up). But I shot 3 par myself on Halloween (finally), so I know a deuce is achievable.

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Daniel J Lee    November 8, 2010 at 12:57pm

I'll duece hole 2 shorts at lakeshore before I will ever duece 16 white chuck d.



NOT complaining- i like the big shot hole here, just not a deuce hole.

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Daniel J Lee    November 8, 2010 at 12:53pm

I'm sorry, but the new 16 white is impossibly duecable (for most people). Unless you get a miraculous/accidental roll over to the basket,this is a challenging par3, if not- par4 hole.

OKAY- IF you can throw a 500ft bomb, then it MIGHT be deucable.

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Scott White    November 8, 2010 at 12:31pm

Mike, not sure I understand. You say 16 white "has no challenge anymore" yet you note that it is a tough hole for you with three different options off the tee. I think this hole invites you to try and crush it for a deuce but that can get you in trouble. For the AM2/AM3 level player they should be trying to play smart and take the three and move on. Playing smart means throwing a good drive in the fairway then parking the upshot. Is the hole deucable? I say it is, but going for that deuce involves some risk/reward.

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    November 8, 2010 at 11:11am

depends on how I land. There is usually a small gust or a breeze that rolls right off the lake & down into that valley. Since being backed up (and having to fight more wind) I am having to play to the right a bit banking on that breeze pushing me left a bit. I just try to play the straight shot to the pin for the follow up....so boring. I have no problems taking the bogey, because that is my fault for not playing better. On average, this hole is too generic. Shot straight and then shot straight again.

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    November 8, 2010 at 10:25am

Was going to play Chuck D Red Tee's this past Sunday, but the wife needed some help around the house & shiz so I was unable to make it out as planned. I will try and make it out this week and review it for you guys. Played the Whites on Saturday though with the family in tow. I am finally getting used to the new tee placements except for hole 16. I am sorry, but I absolutely loath hole 16 now. It used to be much more fun playing from the previous spot. Taking the drive shot that far back is ... more

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Scott White    November 8, 2010 at 10:02am

White tee signs are being installed today and should be all in by Wednesday.



Red tee on hole 16 has been moved up for a different line at the basket.



Thanks Brandon for the feedback, we moved #18 back to provide more of a challenge. Why would you like to see it moved back?

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Brandon LaVigne    November 4, 2010 at 6:55pm

I vote for the red tee on 18 to be moved to where the white tee used to be.

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    November 4, 2010 at 11:04am

Saw Scott's Round Comments for the Red Tee's last night. My buddy didn't even know Independence was around the corner, so I'm dragging him there this weekend after we knock out Bandemer. I have played the Red's, but haven't even really thought of reviewing them. So I can help provide some feedback after this weekend if the Park is looking for some. Might be a crappy weekend weather wise, but I still plan on making it out.

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    October 28, 2010 at 4:46pm

Going to try & beat the rain and sun setting at 6:30. Swing out there now :)

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Joe 'Dirt' LaPerna    October 27, 2010 at 7:09pm

Dan Lee got owned on hole one on chuck d by a falling branch from the 40 mph winds today lol. Keep your heads up ppl! Lol

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Mike "Papa Par" Even    October 26, 2010 at 6:19pm

@ Brandon.....That's because when you tell people to look out for flying discs, they think you are talking about UFO's :P

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Brandon LaVigne    October 26, 2010 at 2:04am

Every time I try to warn people on the picnic course about the flying discs and to "keep an eye out from up there where the tee is that people are throwing from", the people always look at me with their mouth open like I'm crazy or like I just spoke in a foreign language or they just start walking away while I'm in mid sentence lol

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Joe Wander    October 23, 2010 at 8:47am

Nice job on the signage and tees.

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Matt "The Spider" Swider    October 22, 2010 at 9:23am

Anyone up for a round at 11:00?

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Scott White    October 20, 2010 at 8:38am

Southside 9-16 are in until spring 2011. Northside is pulled and will go in mid November.

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peter kunoff    October 20, 2010 at 8:27am

anybody been out to indy since sunday? picnic already pulled? leave in the south end of the course? going to try to make it out there tomorrow

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