samuel smith  › Lakeshore   July 6, 2013 at 1:12am

If you bring your league to lakeshore you have to pay to play

Jesse Whitlock   July 5, 2013 at 9:22pm

So this is a private course now huh? League revenue tax must be payed....

ken "sega salt" moote   July 5, 2013 at 9:25pm

Calhounaburger tax

samuel smith   July 5, 2013 at 9:32pm

apparently he said all leagues have to give him the other half of the 50/50

Ben Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 9:51pm

I ask all leagues playing for cash to run a side optional 50/50, NM did in past summers, with 50 going to course fund. there is no club or park system to pay for any maintenance everything comes out of my pocket, but i dont own the course. its pretty reasonable. and paying into a ctp is an option for each person. not a reuirement.

samuel smith   July 5, 2013 at 9:56pm

why would the leagues pay for that you have a million casuals come threw and throw trash everywhere and when the league players are there we pick it up and throw it away tax the casuals not the leagues

Ben Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 10:00pm

because theres no other way to raise any $? i keep the course free for all, twiice lakeshore has asked if we want to chargee to play. it is always optional to enter 5050, its extremely reasonable. for money bets.

Ben Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 10:05pm

its not even an issue, if said league or players dont like it not 1 person has to do the 5050, it would not be necessary if there was a club that worked the course or a park system in place. as it is i do everything but mow the grass and i spnd 100$s out of my pocket on the course each year, beyond the 6 holes i bought and havent even been fully paid for yet by fundraiser

Dave Lassen   July 5, 2013 at 10:06pm

12:00 Saturday Dubs is 100% payout to players...... no money goes to run the league......we dont have a 50/50.......I was never aware of a course problem kinda late to change locations.... I`m sure we can work something out......

samuel smith   July 5, 2013 at 10:11pm

put up a donation can in the shop and people who want to donate will

Ben Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 10:13pm

i cant believe anyone thinks this is an issue. NM did i t before. add extra ctp it is optional. nobody has to pay in. is it hard to understand. no league is being taxed. someone wins $. nobody required to pay 1$. non-issue entirely. i think i cant explain it any simpler so im done trying see you tomorrow ..

Mr. Retired -WPD   July 5, 2013 at 10:23pm

Huge issue Ben laden, watched you tell a league they weren't allowed to play without your clown ass 50/50ctp

Mr. Retired -WPD   July 5, 2013 at 10:24pm

Sic sempur tyrannus

Mr. Retired -WPD   July 5, 2013 at 10:25pm

Apt cuts grass, Lil Benny cuts branches!

Felicia Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 10:44pm

Guys It is just an Option... I swear sometimes men are just as bad as women when they feel like arguing.

Jesse Whitlock   July 5, 2013 at 10:48pm

The Throw Shop doesnt earn revenue by people playing the course? Not to mention you were bragging about record sales on Thursday Ben! If anything, you should add a ctp prize if you expect $ out of a league round. Team Night Moose uses the 50/50 $ to fund the Night Moose Open every year! Not only tha ... more

Ben Calhoun   July 5, 2013 at 10:55pm

I respect your opinion and support. I cant stress again the word 'optional' ctp. i let it go because it did say that all I knew going into the shot is that i heard it called longest drive. i was going to re paint the traps tomorrow but that costs meso i guess i wont. i have spent more $ on ... more

Jesse Whitlock   July 5, 2013 at 10:57pm

Oh and by the way, I strongly support an Am and Pro seperation during leagues! Also, I apologize if anyone is offended by the way I run leagues when asked. I dont believe its random when you get to see the roll call sheet for your matchup whether you want Cali or not. I like things to be fair and I ... more

samuel smith   July 5, 2013 at 11:10pm

kaboom **** just exploded. All right now that thats all out of everyones system

Josh "J. FRI." Frisinger   July 5, 2013 at 11:54pm

Wow. Can't we all just get along

Felicia Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 12:00am


Mike Stratford   July 6, 2013 at 12:14am

whoa .... everyone back to your corners ...

Jesse Whitlock   July 6, 2013 at 12:45am

I just try to get along and run a fair game! I always leave any course cleaner than when I started my round. Ive put plenty of my $ into the donation jar on the counter at The Throw Shop and will continue to do so as long as I play there. If youre gonna claim Lakeshore as a public course free for an ... more

Ken Mango   July 6, 2013 at 8:19am

Ben, thank you and your family for donating your time and money!

Rich Mcpherson   July 6, 2013 at 9:38am

Stop crying if u wanna get in the 50/50 then do it if not shut the **** up n throw ****es

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 9:43am

thats not what was said at the league rich shut your pie hole and actully get out and golf once in awhile

Rich Mcpherson   July 6, 2013 at 9:48am

F u n ill be there today.. Bet u won't

Felicia Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 9:51am

might not have been what was said at your league Sam but it is optional you don't have too if you do thats great helps out with the course if you don't thats fine to just get out and play. i am getting so tired of you guys crying about this when it is OPTIONAL!!!!

Rich Mcpherson   July 6, 2013 at 9:53am

Yeah ****es

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:04am

then get a new life and start golfing were you live and stop chimming into our ****

ken "sega salt" moote   July 6, 2013 at 10:06am

Haaaa screaminnnn

Zach Zeneberg   July 6, 2013 at 10:12am

Drama aside, I think Jesse made a great point about how "random leagues" stop being random as soon as people peek at the roll call sheet and decide they have a better chance at cash as cali than with their partners. I feel like we never used to be able to see, now it's common for ev ... more

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 10:18am

Holy ****. Last Thursday, I asked Jesse to run the 50/50 that way, before the league began. Night Moose did it in past summer when they came here on Sundays, ask Jay. I did not know he didn't know that's how it worked. If someone had told me what your 50/50 was for and that you already had ... more

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:18am

then it should be random cali and you have to pay 5 no free cali

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 10:19am

And Jesse you do a fine job running league I wasn't trying to make you run your league a different way. I was only suggesting using sandtraps and seeing if a majority wanted to play long tees. I wasn't trying to force either, obviously. Sandtraps are marked today, but I can't make you play them, that's up to you.

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:22am

thats not how it went ben

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 10:28am

How do you think it went, Sam? I've done that for 2 years, asked Tuesday PDGA single to run one, 24 Chains (when they play for cash) to run one. I asked Jesse to run it that way before the round.

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 10:29am

If anyone had a problem with it should have said it before, could have ran a separate one, maybe a pre-round ctp.

Jesse Whitlock   July 6, 2013 at 10:31am

I'm over it! No worries and no offense given nor is there any taken. Im not a league administrator and I wont distribute any funds except to the players that win them, without administration consent. We all appreciate the hardwork everyone puts in to keeping courses clean and lets move forward ... more

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 10:33am

Where's the Like button?

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:51am

only if your in the middle jessie

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:56am

it didnt go the way you said you brought it up as we were heading to are holes ctps were allready set then at the end you said have my money saturday no one ever agreed to your ctp cause it wasnt brought up till the last second then you wete bothered we wouldnt give you the money

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 10:58am

did you even play in the singles league the least you could do is support there league before asking for money

Ben Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 11:07am

I said to talk to Jay and we can talk about Saturday, I did not demand money. I'm sorry if I brought it up late, I thought it was known. It has been done a dozen times before at Night Moose leagues. And again, it isn't asking for money. It's asking to run an optional 5050. If nobody g ... more

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 11:17am

this is a forum for discgolf this is were it should be disscussed now your saying im a child becouse i let it be known that you have some bull **** ctp maybee you should bill lakeshore for your work they ownthe course

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 11:31am

come on i only have 1/2 an hour to **** or ill be back on at 6 to do some more complaining

Mr. Retired -WPD   July 6, 2013 at 11:44am

Greedy Lil cuss

Steve Blink   July 6, 2013 at 2:37pm

This was a fun read.

Felicia Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 4:22pm

Fine Sam you win i will stay out of this. Only try to talk like everyone else and put in my two cents... but i can see no one wants to hear from me and keep complaining so good bye

samuel smith   July 6, 2013 at 5:04pm

im saying venture out into the world go meet new friends go play new discgolf courses being on the scene is cool but you need to have fun and start a new 24 chains down there carry on the legacy

Jesse Whitlock   July 6, 2013 at 7:55pm

This one time at band camp my female camp counselor taught me things... She tasted like ciggarettes lol

Felicia Calhoun   July 6, 2013 at 8:21pm

lol wow Jesse way to be random

Daemon Stahlin   July 7, 2013 at 5:30pm

where's the money lebowski? where's the money ****HEAD!!!??!!