Michigan Masters & More

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Scott 'bernie' Burnham    August 20 at 11:03am

Thinking about playing Grand Isle Day 2 at Rotary North tomorrow 8/21. Never played it but it looks fun and challenging. Will be driving from Detroit area but currently not a masters division. Registration closes tonight at 8pm. I'm in if there are two more to make a division. Reply here or text me at 586-612-9275. Who isn't playing Ledgestone?? Let's go throw the plastic thing.

Randy "Shide-Arm" Shideler   August 20 at 4:14pm

It is a fun/challenging course. Glad to have you make the journey. Currently I am signed up for AM2. Normally I play MG1, but saw the weather was not going to be favorable (as it turns out we had a tornado pass through GR today). If we can find a third, I might be willing to play younger (MM1). We'll have to wait & see.

Craig Clingan    July 21 at 11:34am

Ledgestone Open: There are 10 spots in MM1, 3 spots left in MG1, and 3 spots in MS1. This is another good opportunity to boost your points total. The player pack is valued at over $250, so that doesn't hurt either. https://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/Ledgestone_Insurance_Open_presented_by_Discraft_2016/registration

Fred Vocino   July 21 at 10:16am

I'm registered. Coordination of travel arrangements can help, especially with same division folks.

Craig Clingan    May 6 at 12:29am

Am Worlds registration opens tonight at midnight! I guarantee there will be a lot of Masters & More there. https://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/2016_PDGA_Amateur_and_Junior_Disc_Golf_World_Championships/registration

Fred Vocino   May 5 at 8:57pm

There were about 54 MS1 players in 2015. I have the page open and my credit card on the keyboard. It would make sense to have some ride sharing for those interested in early practice trips.

Craig Clingan   May 5 at 9:47pm

We hope to stay there Saturday thru Saturday. Not sure where yet. Will definitely be getting in some practice rounds!

Fred Vocino    February 25 at 6:04pm

I have posted my wish list on my DGSpage.


Fred Vocino    August 26, 2015 at 3:35pm

The Discraft Michigan State Championships on Sept. 5 and 6 has already drawn together a good number of Masters + players. The registration remains open for folks with berths through Aug.28. Pool A (pro) and Pool E (am) include the Masters+ divisions. They are well below the pool maximums at this point, so the opportunity for those without berths occurs via the Last Chance Qualifier (LCQ) event. That event is scheduled for Sept.4 (in PM), with pre-registration ending Sept.3 at 2pm. The need to ac ... more


Michael Wildner    March 28, 2015 at 2:12pm

I was working on my responses to Fred's survey about events I am attending this year and got frustrated with DGS's text boxes only allowing one line, editing was a nightmare, so I created a more comprehensive survey via surveymokey.com that will allow you to select as many events as you wish. It was also hard for me to narrow down the choices, I'm one of those that typically attends at least 10 events per year. Here's the survey link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/J23MLX2

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Randy "Shide-Arm" Shideler   March 28, 2015 at 7:36pm

Done. Hope it helps.

Jeff Hill   March 28, 2015 at 9:14pm

Done. Good job on the survey Wild man, and thank you Fred for starting the subject discussion.

Michael Wildner   March 29, 2015 at 6:55pm

I'll have to do some research, I'm new to SurveyMonkey, to see how I can share the results. I could probably set up an account specifically for this group if there is no other option.

Fred Vocino    March 17, 2015 at 1:49am

See News page.............


Jay Moyer    January 21, 2015 at 12:24pm

One stroke per 10 points. With the highest rated or scratch player receiving no handicap.

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Fred Vocino   January 23, 2015 at 1:09pm

I'm thinking there is some calculus involved. I'll do some investigation.

Fred Vocino   January 25, 2015 at 1:03pm

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Fred Vocino   January 26, 2015 at 7:52pm

I'm moving this discussion to the news page to share the news I got regarding Performance Flight Scoring.

Fred Vocino    January 20, 2015 at 1:53pm

In a recent exchange connected to a masters and older only tournament, the possibility of combined divisions was raised. Making something like that acceptable to people with 30 years and 100 rating points between them challenges our ingenuity. Let's collectively imagine how something could be done to make it possible. "Handicapping" comes to mind, but, I have no clue as to how that works.

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steve nolff   January 20, 2015 at 3:45pm

Thanks Jimmy.

Fred Vocino   January 25, 2015 at 12:59pm

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Rob Jerisk    January 16, 2015 at 1:21pm

Hey Old timers, My GF is on me to live down south a month or two in the winter. Next year I told her we could rent some place down south where it is warm for a month. From what she tells me you have to put a deposit down a year ahead of time. With that said where would be somewhere warm where she would be happy and I could throw some discs and minimize getting bit by a reptile. You all know I like throwing into the brush. :o)

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Nick Pacific   January 16, 2015 at 11:39am

Scottsdale Arizona is beautiful in the winter time, sunny dry and 65-70 daily. You have plenty of nearby options for discgolf and lots of outdoor things to do, hiking/camping and exploring the desert that time of the year is amazing. I think you're going to find it a lot more affordable than A ... more

Rob Jerisk   January 17, 2015 at 8:16am

Thanks, I knew I could count on you guys!!!

Pov Underhill   February 10 at 1:13pm

Charlotte NC

Jim Knudson    October 23, 2014 at 2:23pm

Sure has been an awful lot of Masters and Grand Masters from the west side of the state signing up for tourneys, then either bailing, changing divisions, or showing up at other tourneys on the same day as the one they bailed on. This leaves the division in limbo and causes other players who do show up to switch. Sometimes the division you want to switch to, was on a the previous day! Come On Men!!

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Fred Vocino   October 24, 2014 at 11:00am

I'm about to hit my no- throw season. That will put me on task for the survey of 2015 choices and preferences. Without precise dates until formal schedules are out, it may yet be possible to project some idea based on the perrennial tournaments we have played. It might be good to identify certa ... more

John Minicuci   October 24, 2014 at 3:31pm

DGLO is an A Tier the last weekend of May. It's always a good time but be aware of the TD. I hear he can be a little flighty sometimes :-) !

Fred Vocino   October 24, 2014 at 11:50pm

You got it...we can plot a mix of A, B and C tier events, spread over time and the map. The massive "B" event before Labor Day in Luddington always gets red letters on my schedule.

Fred Vocino    August 1, 2014 at 1:49am

I neglected to identify the potentially competing tournaments this year. That may have been less critical due to the schedules for PDGA events. Craig points to another possible function of the MM&M club; that is, giving players improved probability for age divisions when they consider their choice of tournaments over a season. This would involve a 2015 pre-season review of the choices and some consensus building among club members. There will be different levels of readiness to travel and o ... more

steve nolff   August 1, 2014 at 9:05am

Great idea Fred. Nothing more frustrating than signing up for a tournament as a grand and ending up tournament day deciding to play Rec or moving up to play the long tees. Is there a list available of 2015 tournaments or are you proposing we use 2014 as a guide in chosing the above?

Fred Vocino   August 1, 2014 at 11:22am

We will probably need to wait for Late Februuary 2015 to see the available choices. This year's tournaments can be good guide for 2015. We might look back through the results pages and note where the age divisions were populated. That may indicate a likely repeat in 2015. If you would like to l ... more

Craig Clingan    July 31, 2014 at 6:08pm

So, I just registered to play AM 2 at this weekend's CCR. Where are all the old farts? Get out of your rockin' chair and get to Lansing this weekend!

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Scott Ransley   July 31, 2014 at 5:58pm

You could always play Pro Masters. Giant field there.

John Minicuci   July 31, 2014 at 10:02pm

Craig, I am in wedding shower mode here at the house. I have 2 weeks to get the house ready for a shower here and a B Tier FE the week after. I would love to but family calls!

Fred Vocino   August 1, 2014 at 11:40am

I did CCR last year and played "young". This year I missed it in favor of Gale Vaughn Mem.(last weekend) and FlipCity Aug 9. See my other comment re: a system for next year.

John Minicuci    June 17, 2014 at 8:07pm

Hi guys - an A Tier is calling, can ya hear it?

Jeff Hill   June 18, 2014 at 9:48am

I heard it! Great course that is closed to casuals during the tourney, food and drinks provided after the round on Saturday with a putting competition. This is going to start filling up fast in the next few days.

Michael Wildner    April 8, 2014 at 3:07pm

We've got 3 Pro Grand Masters and 1 AM Grand Master signed up for the MnM Series #1, "Near Wild Heaven", 4/26 at Manton, which is a PDGA C Tier and a J-Bird Series event. I am willing to switch to MPG, MG1, MM1, or MPM to accommodate players in any of these divisions. Also running a "double shot" side game for players who play this event and the Quinvitational, 4/27 at Ludington, a little more than an hour away from Wild Haven.

Jammer Gross "Team Tilley's"   April 8, 2014 at 6:15pm

I plan on playing mpg mike

Eddie Ruiz Grateful Discer    April 3, 2014 at 3:01pm

Att. Vets No charge to enter and play June 21 at Hollywood's , Stars and Strips Forever Turny. for more info look it up on the Tournaments section or Mark Stephens .

Randy "Shide-Arm" Shideler   April 3, 2014 at 11:54am

Thanks for the heads up. If i weren't already playing in the Meijer State Games I would have played.

Corey Nufer    April 2, 2014 at 8:31pm

The 2014 Vibram Birdie Bash at Knollwood in Kalamazoo is coming up on May 17th! $30 gets you two Vibram discs, a dry fit shirt, a towel, and a Vibram mini!

Last year's Birdie Bash was an extreme success and I hope to see everyone there, the money raised from this tournament will go toward finishing up the installation of tee pads and tee signs.

To register, use the link provided below:



Fred Vocino    April 2, 2014 at 3:38am

May 3 and 4 are dates for the Southern Michigan Open in Ypsilanti. It looks like a few folks (including me) are hoping to get enough MG1 and MS1 players to have those divisions. A tier tournaments are special. This space is running out; pay and no pay registration is possible right now.


Fred Vocino    October 28, 2013 at 1:57pm

Sunday Nov.3 at 10am. BELLE ISLE DGC, Detroit. Tournament to keep hope alive for a permanent course no matter how the political issues are resolved. Sport transcends these differences. I'm going to my hometown to help with the message about Discgolf. Already enough enthusiasts to make it a good game. 20 bucks and good weather predicted.

Fred Vocino   October 28, 2013 at 10:00am

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John Minicuci   October 28, 2013 at 11:44am

There is a decent Masters Division, albeit Doubles Nov 2 @ Sunnybrook...

Fred Vocino   October 28, 2013 at 7:48pm

I saw that. As for BYOP, that's usually a little doubtful. Also, playing a "bomber" course the day before Belle Isle would wreck my arm. As it is, I'm about to start my winter R&R. Following up on your quest for ancient plastic treasures- I gave your number to Adam Weiss with a message about your interests. Good luck..,see you in spring.

Fred Vocino    October 6, 2013 at 6:26pm

Yesterday at Blue Gill the Old Guys Draw Dub's game was held; thanks to Joe Gill and Chuck DeVries, and 14 other great guys 46 or older. My extra treat was seeing Adam Weiss and Ray Hart. They were part of my earliest league: Royal Oak, Wagner Park, c.1984. (pre- Motor City Chain Gang). The "OG Dubs" is the latest iteration of a dubs game that Chuck started recently. This 2013 event was won by Joe Gill who received the first trophy given. It was unanimously decided that eac ... more

Josh Russell   October 6, 2013 at 9:24pm

If there is room for me next year, let me know. That sounds like something up my alley.

Fred Vocino   October 6, 2013 at 9:48pm

I will be keeping my eye open for the 2014 event. It came up impromptu this year and I was lucky to hear about it. Its a traveling game so we will have to have the right "favorites" on DGS to hear about it. I'll let you know when I do.

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