Thad Gunther › Anchorage Disc Golf Association December 23, 2013 at 10:12am
Topics to think about/discuss.
1. Should Kincaid DG course be a pay to play?
Between $2-$5 for a day pass.
Season pass option?
_pro's & con's
2. Discussing the possibility of a 2nd 18 hole course at Kincaid with the parks department.
_maybe starting near the front gate parking lot.
_what is in the parks master plan? Is this a possibility, is there enough use age to warrant a 2nd course.
Anyone have any knowledge on this topic?
I'm all for a second 18 at Kincaid - after the east side of town gets its first public course.
I vote no for pay to play at caid. Many of us anchorage folks ply there several times a week in tw summer. It's
Oops If we had to pay five dollars each time I'd easily drop $30 dollars a week there. Idk seems like ppl from anchorage already contribte a lot to the ADGA via leagues alone. I'd be open to having a second course that is pay to play.
Thats where the season pass would come in and it would also lighten traffic there.
Kincaid Park is a great public recreation area, I'd personally rather see us do something like the Nordic Ski Assn. does with the sale of their trail pins. I don't know that the municipality would want to do so anyway...what is your reasoning for it?
My reasoning....for discussion of the pros and cons. Just to get people thinking about ways to raise $ to improve the dg scene.
I am all for fundraising, but I don't think the Municipality of Anchorage is going to allow the ADGA to reap the proceeds from use of their land.
We need 2 beginner friendly course in Anchorage before we do anything at Kincaid. We have a over use problem at Kincaid and adding more people to that area at this time is a bad idea
I'm a huge proponent of making nicer courses pay to play. If we could swing it- and especially if the front 9 turned out phenomenal- I would love alcantra to be p2p. But that's beside the point- even if we do get the front 9 in we have other issues to deal with first- atvs on the course, r ... more
I'm a huge proponent of making nicer courses pay to play. If we could swing it- and especially if the front 9 turned out phenomenal- I would love alcantra to be p2p. But that's beside the point- even if we do get the front 9 in we have other issues to deal with first- atvs on the course, reckless/illegal activity in the parking lot, etc. But I'm against making kincaid p2p. It's not often that I can make it all the way out there, and adding more money to the fuel I have to buy would make this guy a very rare sight on that course. Instead, consider making it free to current members of ANY disc golf association. That would reduce abuse of the course and encourage those who are determined to play to just shell out the 25 bucks for a membership somewhere. There's the bit of income, there's the sport growing, and there's the reduction in damage and abuse to the course.
... Free to DGA members and pay to play for others is what I should have said. That would help to keep the rec players who just want to get ****faced and throw one disc as hard as possible over and over regardless of people on the fairway, and drop their beer cans wherever- that would reduce the number of them. And a $300 fine for course fee nonpayment would go to the city.
I'm with Thad m on this one.
Kincaid doesn't even have the parking to handle two 18s plus all the other activities and facilities there.
You could never enforce the fee paying and thd city would have to hire someone to take fees
Look how many rounds get poached at Russian jack , walking on to Kincaid is very easy and plus being a city park and tourist attraction the infastructure needed to do it arent in place and it will either drive new players away or Peters creek and service will get trashed due to those not wanting to ... more
Look how many rounds get poached at Russian jack , walking on to Kincaid is very easy and plus being a city park and tourist attraction the infastructure needed to do it arent in place and it will either drive new players away or Peters creek and service will get trashed due to those not wanting to pay . We have a wuantity problem not a quality problem , the course we have are fine for now . What we need now are 2 9 hole rec/ int courses to dpread the crowds and to encourage more to take up the sport . We need to make the city see that more courses equals less mess and damage. I use this anology to discribe our problem . 30.000 skiers and 2 ski trails , just how trashed are those trails going get . We have that problem . We need to look for grants and sponsers for the cost of baskets and tees.
Ive scouted 2 parks that have the space and parking we need ,both could go in pretty easy and be challenging to rec and int players . Once we get our sport growing again we can improve our championship level courses in town . I think growing the sport and improving our image in the eyes of the city and state is very important right now. I have a few ideas on how to do it .
One of the courses scouted could even fit 18 in a layout where you could just play a quick 9 and be right back at the parking lot, or continue through 18.
I think a park officer is really needed. Its a massive park, and with that comes the need for a paid steward who can write tickets. Lack of enforcement is really the real problem I would say. Foot traffic causes wear, yes, but wanton distraction, vandalism and littering is a whole other thing. Keep ... more
I think a park officer is really needed. Its a massive park, and with that comes the need for a paid steward who can write tickets. Lack of enforcement is really the real problem I would say. Foot traffic causes wear, yes, but wanton distraction, vandalism and littering is a whole other thing. Keep an eye out for a kincaid level course in the valley. It's in the planning stage right now, and I can't say much just yet anyway. But I would say get after all the schools first and see if you can get some rec courses put in. Mach 1 baskets and 9 250' or shorter holes. Make them quick to play and beginner friendly and easily accessible.
High schools would be nice but we need 2 park courses . I would rather have the money for courses than hire a seward
Co signing Thad again
Whatever you guys decide to do I'm
Oops. I'm in on. I'll be out there shoveling the sand and gravel with you, mixing concrete, operating backhoes and loaders and tractors, whatever. I think a city meeting is in order though where officers get sworn in and receive a ticket book. I love the courses in town as I love the one I ... more
Oops. I'm in on. I'll be out there shoveling the sand and gravel with you, mixing concrete, operating backhoes and loaders and tractors, whatever. I think a city meeting is in order though where officers get sworn in and receive a ticket book. I love the courses in town as I love the one I put my heart and soul into this summer in the valley- I want to see and play more courses, but I also want the maintenance, treatment and public image of all the courses in the state of Alaska to reflect the love the dedicated members have for them. No beer cans, no vandalism, and never a fear of having your head laid open with a disc tossed by a careless jackass (it really hurts guys, trust me.) But spread the courses out by all means! I know this club can have a course no further than a 5 minute drive away from any location in the city within a few short years, but we need to earn the trust of the city and it's residents first.
I was at the wcl closure meeting and the homeowners that showed up love us and the course. It was a bum camp before disc golf
The only people that judge us are uninformed. It's the fact that everyone wants to read about problems rather than the good we do. Tragedy sells copies and gets ratings
There alot of good points being made in this thread!