Dan - You really need to lay off erock on this. There WAS a thread that he was referring to that was very damning towards the course installation from an outside source (an upset park goer), not a disc golfer. The thread has been deleted from its original position. I believe he was simply wondering what the view point was from a DISC GOLFER'S point of view, not the complaining citizen. Please don't assume every time someone asks for additional information it is an attempt to slam anyone.