It kind of looks like you may have gotten a bad first impression of John and/or the ADGA as well. It happens. On behalf of the small percentage of the ADGA I represent. I would like to apologize for anything that may have left a bad taste in your mouth. I don't want anyone to feel alienated. I don't want to see disc golfers turned against each other in a civil war so to speak. Just keep in mind, you may not have gotten such a great first impressions with others here either. I hope that we all here can just take a few steps back and ask ourselves whats really important here, and what can we just let go?