Summer Singles

dave buck    August 27, 2010 at 6:15am

nice league lee. i did enjoy it but still bummed over the last day and even the last 4 weeks. one of those coulda, shoulda, woulda things. 1 and 2 strokes better each of those weeks and would have been right there. sure hate the WSCC thing fell thru.

Julian Powell    August 27, 2010 at 4:16am

Wow guys, awesome league this year!

John Buck    July 7, 2010 at 10:48pm

Fair enough for me, to keep it the way it is. But the point here is that, has anyone even gotten -15 yet? No and whomever that brought this up in the first place, it's unwarranted and baseless, period. So in my opinion if anyone starts with a -15 handicap, then it's fine with me considering that they'll more likely shoot several throws over par more often than not. Barring a great round by them that day & shooting even...then props to them. The handicap may inflate their ... more

Fair enough for me, to keep it the way it is. But the point here is that, has anyone even gotten -15 yet? No and whomever that brought this up in the first place, it's unwarranted and baseless, period. So in my opinion if anyone starts with a -15 handicap, then it's fine with me considering that they'll more likely shoot several throws over par more often than not. Barring a great round by them that day & shooting even...then props to them. The handicap may inflate their score, but we have to remember that their personal best score may have been just 59-60 & to hit 54, it's a big deal to them compared to experienced & advanced players.

What has already been proven is that a few of us can score -9, -10 & up to -12 recently by Josh Dick, so having a handicap of -12 to -18 still makes sense seeing that a bunch of players this year had scored anywhere from 55 to 71. Take this 71 (17 over) by Wesley Williams a few weeks ago & consider this cap of -15 if it was to come into play even though he may have been given a -18 or -21 by DGU the following week. His final score would be just +2 & it's not even enough to make it competitive with the winner's scores of -8's up to -13's, let alone the -4's to '6's on the bottom end of those who cashed.

Like Julian mentioned "Does the current system work?" Yes, I'll agree with him on that and that it should at least stay that way next year regardless. Since everyone paid to be part of this DGU handicap and the rules and handicaps are clear-cut & shown online, it's something that has to be followed. If nobody likes it or acts like they didn't know or expect it to happen, then that's their problem for not being aware and familiar with how the handicap system works. Like it or not, a rather high handicap of -17 to -20 will eventually come down the following week anyway and they'll have to work for everything in the next few weeks without the help of an inflated handicap.

Julian Powell    July 7, 2010 at 7:38pm

Though, the player with the 17 handicap should come back next week with a lower handicap.

Julian Powell    July 7, 2010 at 7:36pm

I guess I will keep talking about this even though NOTHING WILL BE CHANGED in 2010 SUMMER SINGLES LEAGUE. The handicap cap is called a Hall Monitor, it would make the highest amount of strokes you can get through handicap 15 strokes.

Does this defeat the purpose of a true handicapping system, I think so!

Does the current system work? I think so.

So why has this come up, if a player with a 0 handicap plays against a 17 handicap player, and the 17 shoots par, that means the 0 has to shoot a -18 to win (A tough score to get anywhere).

Julian Powell    July 6, 2010 at 8:10am

Also, all players have a DGU handicap and a League Handicap. These will usually be close but not always the same. This is a function of DGU and can be confusing and will be reviewed before our next league.

Just everyone remember, the league is a living breathing and changing organism, not everything is perfect, and most everything is a learning process.

I put this on so we can make new friends and for fun and friendly competition. I will take everything into consideration, and try to accom ... more

Also, all players have a DGU handicap and a League Handicap. These will usually be close but not always the same. This is a function of DGU and can be confusing and will be reviewed before our next league.

Just everyone remember, the league is a living breathing and changing organism, not everything is perfect, and most everything is a learning process.

I put this on so we can make new friends and for fun and friendly competition. I will take everything into consideration, and try to accommodate everyone, but as always, I can't please everyone. If you have a suggestion or comment, please email me or talk to me after or before league.

Lets communicate through the proper channels so issues can be addressed.

Julian Powell    July 6, 2010 at 7:58am

I have no intention to cap the handicaps. I do have that option, but I will not be implementing it in this league. In future leagues this may be a option, but this will not happen in the 2010 Summer Singles League.

John Buck    July 6, 2010 at 6:34am

Is it true that the handicaps may be capped at 10 or something next week or so? I don't think it's the right thing to do. If so, then it seems silly and unfair that one's complaining about the handicap taking away their wins or whatever. There's some players who had won the doubles or other singles format a handful of times. I think that this handicap is a good thing to keep the newer & inexperienced players coming back because it evens everything out.

I'd sa ... more

Is it true that the handicaps may be capped at 10 or something next week or so? I don't think it's the right thing to do. If so, then it seems silly and unfair that one's complaining about the handicap taking away their wins or whatever. There's some players who had won the doubles or other singles format a handful of times. I think that this handicap is a good thing to keep the newer & inexperienced players coming back because it evens everything out.

I'd say....keep the handicap as is, regardless of how much handicap one has be it 14, 18 or 20. It'll come down eventually. If someone doesn't like it, then they shouldn't be the ones ruining the fun.....simply, don't come at all.

dave buck    July 4, 2010 at 7:17pm

hey lee! i just watched the video and it came out pretty clear. course with my dinosaur dial up system it loaded while i went to walmart but was good. more of those would be nice. BUT-next time i sure hope you don't catch me going OB twice-ouch!

dave buck    July 4, 2010 at 5:58pm

been waiting forever for that ace-SWEET! ya never get but one first ace ya know. thanx to mike for the nice pic. i retired that cheap dx sidewinder and have a blue one in it's place in my bag now.

Julian Powell    June 11, 2010 at 12:30pm

Added a league video!

John Buck    May 28, 2010 at 5:16am

Never mind, I see it now. Thought it'd show up on the Leaderboards page.

John Buck    May 28, 2010 at 5:15am

You can add Josh Dick's fluke ace on this too! lol

Julian Powell    May 26, 2010 at 10:30pm

John Buck made a good point:

"Suppose I use that handicapping system & scored a -19 one of these days. It would translate into 1 ace...is it possible to win that ace-fund automatically without hitting an ace theoretically??"

To this I reply:

"Well John, you could in theory score a 1 on a hole, but it would not be an Ace by definition, and would not win the Ace Fund. We have so many new players this year, this handicapping should give everyone a fair chance to cash."

Julian Powell    May 26, 2010 at 9:07pm

If we use Disc Golf United for Handicapping it will cost everyone a one time $10 dollar fee. It worked well last year, and I suggest we use it again! If someone know a way we could do the handicapping ourselves, it would save us money. Though, using DGU is unbiased and a neutral party, so I like the fairness of it.

Julian Powell    May 26, 2010 at 9:00pm

I'm pumped! I'm gonna dominate this year!