Parked under basket hole 19 at Arboretum Course in Canton Ohio. Notice I have stripped down the 360 degree Backhand Drive down to just 3 steps! In my opinion the 360 backhand saves energy and my arm from getting tired. This drive was with a 162 gm Star Wraith, when I turn the disc over with this style drive I can throw 450-500 ft with a tailwind no problem. If you havent tryed this technique you really should.